I've always had a bit of a love-hate relationship with natural remedies. On one hand the idea of a cold-curing remedy hiding away in the confines of my kitchen cupboard sounds fantastic, but it also sounds fantastical. If modern North American medicine costs so much more than a package of organic ginger tea, why is cold and flu medication so popular? While the Nature Vs Science debate can be a harsh and unforgiving battleground, I've decided to look for answers with a completely open mind. Pray for me. 

 

If you're curious and want to check out some sources I have links here:

Consumer View on Natural Products (more on a marketing standpoint):
https://www.emeraldinsight.com...08/07363761111101930

I Don't Trust It, But It's Definitely a Fun Read:
https://www.primarycare.thecli...(09)00081-5/abstract

Again a Fun Read, Again A Pro- Natual Medicine Article Without Proper Citations.
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi...0.1089/acm.2016.0405

 

Highly Recommend This One
https://sciencebasedmedicine.o...ience-facts-edition/

And I also have this one:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3182944/

I'll be updating in the next few days on how my research is progressing. And probably finish a round. If you have any ideas or useful links it would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

Katelyn Lachance

 

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Hey Katelyn!

Very interesting topic! I immediately thought of @Juliana Nunes (Charles Best) and her inquiry about homeopathy and other alternative medicines - maybe you could see if she has found any information pertinent to you? I agree that with research like this, it is important to stay unbiased - as difficult as it may be. I'm excited to read about the specifics of what you're looking for and your findings!

Here are some sources that may be of use to you:

http://www.integrativehealthin...ic-skin-care-clinic/

http://getwellhere.com/the-nat...h-to-skin-disorders/

Good luck!

Hi Katelyn! 

Very debatable and interesting topic! How you said if American medicine costs so much more money than natural remedies, why is it so popular? That is something I would like to know too, along side many others. This sounds like a great topic, because there will be so many sections to contrast and compare. 

To help with your research, I found some sources that could help you: 

https://www.health.harvard.edu...pensive-201510228480 

https://bancswellness.com/conv...lternative-medicine/ 

Great luck!

Hello @Katelyn Lachance (LFAS)

Natural remedies. My take on this is that there is some things that works wonders from those. There's things that science works best (but theres limitations as well) Years ago we didn't have that much science like we now in the 21st century. Of course, among that is that there is some myths within all old medicine (always has been around. Just like the 1960s about AIDS or in other medicine practices). But there are natural components that has great effects (in general). You have a great question and inquiry here. 
Taking from the asian-traditional medicine aspect: what I have found interesting is that if I am sick, Western Medicine I take deals with the symptoms. The asian traditional medicine deals with the body (most of the time). My personal result is that the latter works best always. The former seems to just lets me "wait it out" rather than combat it directly like the latter. Regardless, if you have a broken bone, one word: hospital. 

Unfortunately, there are things science cannot answer. And this holds true. We can only label it as "no signs of relation". But if there are thing's out in space that defies our laws of physics, then definitely there are things that defies our understanding of physical selves. (sources below explains how this applies to TCM)

One final factor. I love this topic. The problem with "natural remedies" (aside from TCM, traditional chinese medicine), is that there are many "Fake" types and claims. Too many. Which causes a problem for those distinguishing true effects/benefits vs. no benefits.

A suggestion for area to look into with a long-running historical lineage would be TCM. It originates from Asian locations but the study and history of the natural medicine of this is vast and deep. (Caution is that there are meanings lost in translation so eg. "chi" can't be found according to a study)  Still worth looking into however! Many ingredients baseline have great health effects nevertheless. Some areas to start you off: 

https://www.healthlinkbc.ca/he...-topics/aa140227spec

https://nccih.nih.gov/health/w.../chinesemed.htm#hed1

https://www.cancerresearchuk.o...nal-chinese-medicine

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ecam/2015/425037/

Have fun! 

~Jim
CA
CBSS

 

Hi Katelyn,

Very intriguing topic! Perhaps it has something to do with if one is more effective than the other or maybe if like doctors recommend one over another.  I think this is a very two sided topic, so as you said it’s important to not be biased and to make sure you support both sides. I am very interesting to see what you find!

Here are some websites to help you out:

http://realizehealth.org/about...nventional-medicine/

https://sciencebasedmedicine.o...ience-facts-edition/

Good luck!

Hey Katelyn! 

Looking into the legitimacy of Naturopathy is very interesting. I was curious about the legality of the practice, as I know of some places where it is covered by insurance and others where it is illegal. I think it might be worth looking at how legislature handles the practice of naturopathy to find more unbiased research.

This is an interesting case that I read that calls into question the legitimacy of naturopathy, with some credible sources. It may be a good place to start if you're looking for why naturopathy is seen as illegitimate through the eyes of the law, and society. Of course, this isn't to say the law is the only thing that matters, but it doesn't hurt to look at the arguments going on in the courts. It might be worth looking, also, to find cases of naturopathic remedies hurting or helping people. Lawsuits will probably yield some results with evidence-based arguments!

https://scholar.google.ca/scho...2010&as_yhi=2014

 

It is also interesting to look at different places' board of medical examiners, medical licensing boards, and medical councils. In Canada, there seems to be a board for natural medicine practitioners. Compare this to our Medical Council, perhaps? Try to find two equivalent licensing boards, is what I'm saying, for further research.

https://mcc.ca/

http://www.ebnmp.com/

Something else to look into: The author in this article I found describes how naturopaths practice illegally under the guise of being a "health coach", though the author herself seems to hide behind her own "natural living centre." I'm also interested by all of her claims of how a naturopath prioritizes "gathering and sharing information with other healthcare providers" as if they work alongside other doctors in a hospital. (Do some hospitals have naturopath doctors?)

https://naturallivingnashville...d-why-do-we-need-it/

Finally, I noticed the word "vitalism" popping up a lot in your sources. This is an old theory in science, and I was wondering if modern-day naturopaths have any experiments or evidence to back this theory up. Worth looking into, maybe?

 

Good luck with this rabbit hole!

Hey Katelyn, 

You're absolutely correct, the nature vs science debate is a very controversial and occasionally brutal discussion that weighs the advantages and disadvantages of the science backing up Western medicine, and the historical and traditional sides of holistic medicine. Although surgery, drug therapy, and everything else seen in conventional medicine is backed up with science and numerous studies, it is constantly changing. There are always new medical advancements, and there will continue to be advancements, so how can we be sure that the care we are getting is optimal? With alternative medicine (naturopathy included), there are not many studies or scientific research going on that can solidly prove its effect. However, in many Eastern countries and in various cultures they have been using this approach to cure for centuries. So, it really is an outweighing of benefits and the application of philosophy. 

I'm very excited to follow along with your research, as I am also looking into this whole science vs nature debate, conventional vs alternative medicine for my inquiry. You have some great sources and some great ideas, I can't wait to ready your research rounds!

Hi Katelyn, 

 Very interesting inquiry, I didn’t think there was a lot of controversy about naturopathy vs. science in terms of medicine (mostly because I’ve always believed it doesn’t matter as long as it works for the individual) but as more people are researching it, I realize this is a very heated debate indeed! 

 I personally think both natural medicine and science are important. Personally, I rely on modern medicine for the most part, but that’s partially because that’s what I’ve always done. But there are many cases where it would be healthier to use natural medicine. It usually depends on the case. For example, many people rely on modern medicine for physical health and naturopathy for mental health. 

 I think one thing that could affect these choices is timing. Someone might choose to purchase cold and flu medicine instead of a natural remedy because a pill could cure the cold or flu much quicker, even instantly. 

  Good luck with your research! 

Hi Katelyn,

That's a really cool inquiry topic! It's also quite controversial, and I'm interested to see if there is some science based evidence to back up certain natural remedies, or if companies only advertise their good effects without any evidence. I'm not sure about this, but I think that natural remedies are less harmful (that is, they are less likely to have negative side effects), but I think that they are usually not as effective.

Here are some websites you might find useful:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/w...els-of-evidence.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6273146/

Good luck!

Wow this is an amazing topic! I have previously tried a few natural remedies myself, and several times I had incredible results, but sometimes I find it easier t stick to modern medicine. I was wondering if there are also health benefits when choosing natural remedies over modern medicine, and I was thinking it might be something to look into. 

Here are some links that might help you with your research:

https://www.dummies.com/health...of-natural-medicine/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/...de-for-pseudoscience

I found this one especially interesting:

https://herbs.lovetoknow.com/S...s_of_Herbal_Medicine

Good luck with your research!

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